Comments on: Fighterization of Carnatic music http://noenthuda.com/blog/2009/03/17/fighterization-of-carnatic-music/ Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:27:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: skimpy http://noenthuda.com/blog/2009/03/17/fighterization-of-carnatic-music/comment-page-1/#comment-1851 skimpy Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:38:33 +0000 http://noenthuda.com/blog/?p=1215#comment-1851 so appreciate me so appreciate me

]]> By: krishna s http://noenthuda.com/blog/2009/03/17/fighterization-of-carnatic-music/comment-page-1/#comment-1846 krishna s Wed, 08 Apr 2009 05:50:37 +0000 http://noenthuda.com/blog/?p=1215#comment-1846 Great effort to present various aspects of Indian music. Indeed a job worth appreciation Great effort to present various aspects of Indian music. Indeed a job worth appreciation

]]> By: free stock market research http://noenthuda.com/blog/2009/03/17/fighterization-of-carnatic-music/comment-page-1/#comment-1829 free stock market research Fri, 03 Apr 2009 07:50:32 +0000 http://noenthuda.com/blog/?p=1215#comment-1829 I dont usually comment, but after reading through so much info I had to say thanks. I dont usually comment, but after reading through so much info I had to say thanks.

]]> By: skimpy http://noenthuda.com/blog/2009/03/17/fighterization-of-carnatic-music/comment-page-1/#comment-1766 skimpy Sun, 22 Mar 2009 04:29:41 +0000 http://noenthuda.com/blog/?p=1215#comment-1766 i think the thing with carnatic concerts is that "conventions" have become "rules". I'm not calling for people to break ragas or stuff like that. All i'm saying is they should continue to innovate and not be bound by conventions. i think the thing with carnatic concerts is that “conventions” have become “rules”. I’m not calling for people to break ragas or stuff like that. All i’m saying is they should continue to innovate and not be bound by conventions.

]]> By: skimpy http://noenthuda.com/blog/2009/03/17/fighterization-of-carnatic-music/comment-page-1/#comment-1765 skimpy Sun, 22 Mar 2009 04:28:29 +0000 http://noenthuda.com/blog/?p=1215#comment-1765 correlation doesn't imply causation. i frankly don't know about this. correlation doesn’t imply causation. i frankly don’t know about this.

]]> By: N http://noenthuda.com/blog/2009/03/17/fighterization-of-carnatic-music/comment-page-1/#comment-1756 N Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:12:49 +0000 http://noenthuda.com/blog/?p=1215#comment-1756 The next logical defensive step (from the point of view of a Stud) is RG ? This may explain the presence of RG in places where there is a fair mix of studs and fighters. The next logical defensive step (from the point of view of a Stud) is RG ? This may explain the presence of RG in places where there is a fair mix of studs and fighters.

]]> By: aandthirtyeights http://noenthuda.com/blog/2009/03/17/fighterization-of-carnatic-music/comment-page-1/#comment-1748 aandthirtyeights Sat, 21 Mar 2009 02:28:37 +0000 http://noenthuda.com/blog/?p=1215#comment-1748 Good point you make here. Although, I think the issue is more nuanced than that. For instance, Western Classical concerts are also bound by certain rules and traditions. When 'transgressions' are beyond this framework, it is no longer a Western Classical concert. Personally, I love Prasanna's stuff. I enjoy his heavy classical as much as I enjoy his jazz. If he wants me to come just because it is him, and not because he's playing a 'Carnatic' concert or a 'Jazz' concert, if he wants me to know that both his avatars will make an appearance in the concert, I'm very happy. But I don't think this will be the case with many listeners. People not all that familiar with Carnatic music might prefer his jazz, and vice versa. And they'd like to know. Btw, there is a long post on the same interview on my blog - http://imamwapsoro.blogspot.com/2009/03/stagnant-music.html Good point you make here. Although, I think the issue is more nuanced than that. For instance, Western Classical concerts are also bound by certain rules and traditions. When ‘transgressions’ are beyond this framework, it is no longer a Western Classical concert.

Personally, I love Prasanna’s stuff. I enjoy his heavy classical as much as I enjoy his jazz. If he wants me to come just because it is him, and not because he’s playing a ‘Carnatic’ concert or a ‘Jazz’ concert, if he wants me to know that both his avatars will make an appearance in the concert, I’m very happy. But I don’t think this will be the case with many listeners. People not all that familiar with Carnatic music might prefer his jazz, and vice versa. And they’d like to know.

Btw, there is a long post on the same interview on my blog – http://imamwapsoro.blogspot.com/2009/03/stagnant-music.html

]]> By: skimpy http://noenthuda.com/blog/2009/03/17/fighterization-of-carnatic-music/comment-page-1/#comment-1743 skimpy Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:27:36 +0000 http://noenthuda.com/blog/?p=1215#comment-1743 excellent stuff. and i completely agree with you on the flawed selection process bit. happens in jobs also. sometimes the only way you can get promoted - in which case you'll get to do stud work - is by being good at the low-level fighter work. so you end up having studs leave and fighters messing up the stud work. excellent stuff. and i completely agree with you on the flawed selection process bit. happens in jobs also. sometimes the only way you can get promoted – in which case you’ll get to do stud work – is by being good at the low-level fighter work. so you end up having studs leave and fighters messing up the stud work.

]]> By: N http://noenthuda.com/blog/2009/03/17/fighterization-of-carnatic-music/comment-page-1/#comment-1718 N Thu, 19 Mar 2009 04:00:11 +0000 http://noenthuda.com/blog/?p=1215#comment-1718 The KBC success could be split into two components ... the format (i.e., a not-so-difficult quiz show) and the content/presentation (i.e., Amitabh hosting the show and the slick outputs of the show). So, what Star should have thought is this ... I have with me a format that has the potential to click really well but the problem I face is to ensure that people actually tune-into this program (as against an organic word-of-mouth publicity). So, let me put in someone who, through his sheer presence, would attract a lot of eye-balls. Similarly, if I am a Sabha secretary who is facing declining foot-falls, I would walk up to a leading artiste and tell him/her to try out a non-Ariyakudi format. The role of the leading artiste is to lend credibility to the 'alternate-format'. My view is that the declining foot-falls would not be seen till the element of 'content-studness' is fairly dominant. Btw, on the back of this analogy, I am hypothesising the following ... can you tell me if there are any flaws here: 1. The selection process in a 'stud-field' (like arts / music) tests the artist for 'fighter-qualities' 2. The selection process in a 'fighter-field' (like banking) tests the applicant for 'stud-qualities' why am i saying this ... For 1., look at what happens to a young and upcoming carnatic singer. He is tested for a flawless performance (with the voice being above a tolerance threshold). This is in the initial days of the artiste (which is the equivalent to an interview process in a corporate setting) For 2., look at what happens in a banking interview. You can crack the interviews if you are a stud and floor the interviewer. However, the on-the-job requirement may require that part of your thinking for only 10-20% of the time. I have a feeling that I am force-fitting this ... so, wanted your inputs on this. The KBC success could be split into two components … the format (i.e., a not-so-difficult quiz show) and the content/presentation (i.e., Amitabh hosting the show and the slick outputs of the show).

So, what Star should have thought is this … I have with me a format that has the potential to click really well but the problem I face is to ensure that people actually tune-into this program (as against an organic word-of-mouth publicity). So, let me put in someone who, through his sheer presence, would attract a lot of eye-balls.

Similarly, if I am a Sabha secretary who is facing declining foot-falls, I would walk up to a leading artiste and tell him/her to try out a non-Ariyakudi format. The role of the leading artiste is to lend credibility to the ‘alternate-format’. My view is that the declining foot-falls would not be seen till the element of ‘content-studness’ is fairly dominant.

Btw, on the back of this analogy, I am hypothesising the following … can you tell me if there are any flaws here:

1. The selection process in a ‘stud-field’ (like arts / music) tests the artist for ‘fighter-qualities’

2. The selection process in a ‘fighter-field’ (like banking) tests the applicant for ‘stud-qualities’

why am i saying this …
For 1., look at what happens to a young and upcoming carnatic singer. He is tested for a flawless performance (with the voice being above a tolerance threshold). This is in the initial days of the artiste (which is the equivalent to an interview process in a corporate setting)

For 2., look at what happens in a banking interview. You can crack the interviews if you are a stud and floor the interviewer. However, the on-the-job requirement may require that part of your thinking for only 10-20% of the time.

I have a feeling that I am force-fitting this … so, wanted your inputs on this.

]]> By: skimpy http://noenthuda.com/blog/2009/03/17/fighterization-of-carnatic-music/comment-page-1/#comment-1713 skimpy Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:41:25 +0000 http://noenthuda.com/blog/?p=1215#comment-1713 ok i must admit i've never heard him. my post was based solely on his interview. and i found these 2-3 points he made pertinent. ok i must admit i’ve never heard him. my post was based solely on his interview. and i found these 2-3 points he made pertinent.

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